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Jeremy Canyon Lockyer Korbel thank you

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alright thanks you have so many names I

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didn't know which ones I could skip in

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which ones I had to hit my friends and

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enemies call me for name see you last

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time we had you on you were kind of just

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talking about moving out into teachers

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move out to the what part of the desert

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you're over in yeah pioneer town

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California yeah so deep Mojave up in the

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mountains pretty secluded yeah super

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cool and then also you were working on

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all of your artwork which we can talk

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about here in just a bit and you it I

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think we're already kind of getting into

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the citizens hearing on disclosure

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hearing on disclosure and also running

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extraordinary beliefs calm that's right

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yeah but you're coming to us today

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because you have a new movie coming out

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I do

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it's exciting about yeah it's been so

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long tell us everything that's been

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going on cuz it's not just this it's

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also like you've got skinwalker ranch

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stuff coming up you did an art art

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display tied into Charles Manson and

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Ashanti

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thank you Sharon Tate I mean less

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Charles Manson more celebrating Sharon

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Tate way more yeah that's how are you

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connected to so tell me what's what's up

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yeah so I just been since I saw you last

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I've just been working hard

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extraordinary beliefs is the you know

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banner that I work under and I do

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investigations into things they're

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extraordinary people that are ordinary

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they have extraordinary beliefs I try to

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find people that are credible and have

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some sort of you know thing that I can

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prove and so this has been my work over

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I mean the last 10 years but since we've

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talked so a lot of those stories have

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broke for me so everything from

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filmmaking to putting on my first major

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released movie a mass release movie

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which is patient 17 yeah it's been

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[\h__\h] wild and non-stop and exciting

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yeah has there anything that

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and that's really shock to you like

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really shaky oh yeah yeah for sure

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don't tell us no I mean look all of

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these investigations they they tend you

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know since I've gotten into them they

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tend to evolve in pretty curious ways so

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there have been I was recently able to

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break a case and it's a military case

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and I was able to publicly break that

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case about a 2004 event off the coast of

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San Diego the USS Nimitz there was a

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whole fleet that was going out to battle

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and there was or going out to do

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deployment and there was a series of UFO

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and USO events that are all on the

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record it's something that we don't have

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all the documents on I was tipped off

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before couldn't talk about it for a few

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years but was able to go kind of live

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with it when some of the footage got

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leaked from the FLIR camera from one of

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the fighter jets that went out a tic-tac

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shaped object descending from 80,000

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feet all the way down to 50 feet above

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the water and docking is the best word

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to use with some USO unidentified

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submerged object and our military

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thought it was a pretty massive threat I

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mean they they responded as such and

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documented these objects all the fighter

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pilots that saw this object the ones in

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particular that I'm speaking with said

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that it was otherworldly and we don't

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have the technologies I mean they tried

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to lock their planes on to it so they

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could fire if they needed to and this

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thing actively jammed all of our known

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top end radar and weapon systems so that

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was kind of shocking that was kind of

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cool to be able to be on the frontlines

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of that because I've been talking to

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people within the military for years

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before they don't usually focus on

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military cases this one kind of landed

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in my lap but so that was fascinating

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and then I got to spend time at

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skinwalker ranch one of the I know only

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a light surface dusting unsure what most

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people that that's all they get because

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it was shrouded in secrecy there is a

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guy named Robert Bigelow Robert big

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Louis one of the wealthiest people he

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owns Bigelow Aerospace right so it works

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with NASA put inflatables onto the

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international space station called beam

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it blows up habitats

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for Humanity so the guy basically is

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this really interesting dude made his

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fortune as a billionaire in budget

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motels out of Las Vegas Nevada

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he pretty secretly bought a ranch this

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ranch is known as a paranormal hotspot

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there is more before he bought it wasn't

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already known as a paranormal the whole

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Uintah Basin which is the the ute tribe

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that has a sovereign nation there it

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goes back to pre Civil War that there

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are these accounts of shadow people

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beast creatures UFOs mother ships

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dimensional portholes I mean it's just

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it's not reads like science fiction the

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difference is is that when a family

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bought that ranch and started to

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experience what was going on they went

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to the Associated Press or actually got

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picked up by The Associated Press and

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they're like something's going on we're

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being run off our land we think it's the

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government trying to freak us out well

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it turns out Bigelow bought the ranch

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and he put seven scientists for seven

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years we're talking Nobel prize-winning

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phd-level scientists and they studied

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this ranch for seven years trying to

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document these events and they to some

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degree they were successful but all of

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this was private information well my

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mentor George in journalism George Knapp

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he is a two-time Peabody warning

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award-winning 27 Emmy

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journalists the guy's a major journalist

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and he came out and was able to

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basically put little bits out about

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skinwalker ranch you couldn't see

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everything because Bigelow wanted it

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private but he wrote a book called hunt

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for the skinwalker and that book details

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every event that this group called knids

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the National Institute of Discovery

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Science owned by Bigelow what they

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recorded documented and they were trying

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to hunt the phenomenon as they call it

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what's the point of Bigelow trying to do

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this well okay so at the time it was his

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interest in UFOs and so this whole area

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allegedly had these UFO encounters and

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all this stuff but he quickly learned

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that it went far beyond UFOs that the

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phenomenon itself is not confined to UFO

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activity and having these great

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scientists on the ranch and being able

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to document it was a huge leap forward

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for studying these hot spots because

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he'd been talked about for a long time

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there are areas with high activity and

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I can attest to you just from being

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there and speaking with local law

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enforcement they take every call and

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every case seriously because there have

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been repercussions when they haven't so

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everybody in the Uintah Basin has a

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story they have seen everything from

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mother ships to creatures and you have

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to take it kind of seriously once you

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kind of understand that this is a real

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phenomenon people are reporting this so

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what is this phenomenon what is it doing

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engaging humanity and it is a big

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eye-opener if you read this book and no

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one has ever been able to film on the

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you know Tribal Nation in that area we

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were able to because of George Knapp

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spoke and the scientists in colum

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Kelleher who also wrote the book with

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George so he got interviews who got that

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footage we're going back

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studying the ratchet also just using

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journalism as a way to expose at least

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the human level at least the

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psychological human level that people

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are reporting this and they are shaken

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up and there is physical evidence you

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know Wikipedia mentions like everything

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from UFOs to bigfoot-like creatures and

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poltergeists yeah I guess I've never

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thought of or heard of a hot spot that

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had like well I guess Griffith Park was

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kind of that same way specific things

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that are directly tied to the history of

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that spot not just kind of a way where

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was it we went somewhere where it was

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like aliens oh maybe I'm thinking of

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that was like everything that's the

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first time actually on our Catalina trip

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that I had heard of prominently heard of

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the u.s. oohs yeah which apparently

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they've seen out there as well u.s. OS

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are actually the key to all of this it's

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just most people are not able to use

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submarines that kind of thing but I mean

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Navy that they tracked these all the

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time

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think about it it's if this phenomenon

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is real if there are unknown aerial

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vehicles or anomalous air vehicles

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piloted by nonhumans engaging humanity

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since the beginning of recorded human

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history which is the premise if that is

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true then the obvious place to hide

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would be you know in the oceans because

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these craft if they do work the way that

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they're purported to work it wouldn't

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matter what

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they go through let it be water airspace

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it's all the same it's gravity wave

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amplification they can literally

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traverse space-time so it's really easy

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to move through these mediums that's not

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necessarily what I believe although it's

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pretty damn close at this point I don't

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have the luxury of disbelief I mean I've

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just been you know really deep into this

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and talking with people and filming

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people for years now credible people

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some of whom are high-ranking military

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officials which somehow gives people

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credit but you can be crazy on any side

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right but ultimately I have people

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telling me their stories and letting me

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publish them and there is physical

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evidence for a lot of this we have radar

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reports so without giving away what

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you're working on there is there a way

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that you can tell us what some of your

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theories are as far as why is why is it

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like a seemingly random spot on earth

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suddenly a hot spot well it's been a hot

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spot for centuries if not you know for

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thousands of years but right now we just

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have a very unique opportunity which is

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to study these events from a different

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level because we have different

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technologies now so for example there

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are cattle mutilations that go on on

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that property and that was a big deal

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back in the day I mean their Congress

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got involved one point about the the

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mutilation of cattle they had so many

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theories so many were being taken they

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were being studied genetically studied

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blood was being drained there's no way

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that somebody could come up to these

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animals or strip the meat off so on

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skinwalker ranch this one cattle it was

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like 25 minutes the rancher turns around

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and this and they had a team jump in

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from Ned's and do the analysis so we can

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study that stuff biologically we can we

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have a whole different way to study

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things now so it's a very exciting time

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for the weirdness and to be able to

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debunk it or to say hey there's

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something to this so can I ask what just

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what is the name skinwalker that's

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important yeah yes skinwalker it you

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know comes to Native American tradition

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and it essentially refers to a witch a

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shaman a trickster okay or some sort of

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yeah like a like a trickster right I was

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just picturing like a Bigfoot or

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something right well the thing is they

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can wear different skins they can that

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that's the the lore I don't know how

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that translates to physical reality but

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these events as I kind of keep you know

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say

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is that they do leave trace elements I

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mean there are things that happen that

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we or the scientific community can look

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at and that to me is fascinating because

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you're getting down to something is it's

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not a matter of belief anymore is it

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true or not true it's not just witness

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testimony and that's what I'm interested

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in well so then that's a perfect segue

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to talk about patient 17 your new

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documentary about this gentleman that

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you met who was had what do you call it

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the implant

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yeah people call them implants ice a

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foreign body because I'm not convinced

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yet what it is yeah somebody

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intentionally put it in although it's

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seeming very [\h__\h] strange now but

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yeah I met a guy a doctor his name was

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dr. Roger Leir

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he was a podiatrist a foot doctor but he

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spent about 20 years listening to people

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who said I have abductive experiences I

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have this object it's emitting frequency

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in my body it was put in there by these

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nonhumans people say extraterrestrial

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but I don't know their extraterrestrial

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by these nonhumans intelligences and you

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know we have John Mac at Harvard

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University who's head of psychiatry he

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took this very seriously he said this is

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not delusion that the people that are

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experiencing this arts nursing a real

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phenomenon he was a great voice in this

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field because of John Mac and the books

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he wrote out of Harvard about this I had

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to kind of give it more credit

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so I said to dr. Leir is actually our

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common friend Ruben who introduced me to

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dr. Lehrer I didn't want to touch it

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because I was focused on you know

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he put on the Citizen hearing on

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disclosure you know 40 witnesses from

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the intelligence community astronauts

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pilots at the National Press Club in

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front of five congressmen and one

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senator so that was a very cool event

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Ruben did that want to give him credit

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for that and anyway so he told me to

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talk with dr. Lear talked to dr. Lear

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and I said look I don't really believe

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this [\h__\h] and I was like if I point my

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camera at you if you are twisting the

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evidence or dissuading the public

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towards truth I are away from truth I am

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going to out you is sure you want me to

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do it and he said yes I said okay well

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that's interesting you know so I went to

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the surgery and I just thought it'd be

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like a one day thing

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and I figure it out pretty quick that

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everybody's lying you got real up close

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shots of that leg whole stomach I wanted

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to show what the guy went to I mean you

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know we're talking about this like it's

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somebody else see this guy's my friend

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now I know him yeah you know they ripped

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open his leg and took out a big chunk of

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something yeah right before right before

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he goes into surgery

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you asked him you're like something

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along the lines of like are you nervous

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or whatever and he tells you about how

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his wife and or his girlfriend and his

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mom are like just leave it just leave it

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like you don't he's like no it's gonna

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be a small incision small incision next

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shot is literally like gaping oh oh and

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I'm like pressure to not do it how do

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the people that have how do they become

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aware that they have these implants they

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have the memory of it being implanted or

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is anyone just discovered I have this

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and I don't know where it came from

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first of all most people are just

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[\h__\h] crazy and so they don't have an

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implant and they believe they do because

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it's you know cohesive with their

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worldview but the people that dr. Lee it

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is but but dr. Leir you know he had

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these you know tests so basically he put

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someone through a psychological you know

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exam and make sure that they're not

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[\h__\h] crazy and then from there he'd

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say okay you abductive experiences you

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think you have something in your leg get

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an x-ray okay it's denser than bone so

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it's a foreign body it's not something

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that should be in your body okay cool

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then he would essentially do a Gauss

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meter test and this is for me

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trivial but they'd run this

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electromagnetic frequency detector over

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and these things would ping I mean I saw

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it with my own eyes when it was in the

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guy's body but again it wasn't

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controlled environment so I can't really

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count that in as part of my study but

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basically he did that and then all said

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and done you get a few people that are

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eligible and if it's surgically if you

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can remove it surgically then he would

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do it or he'd get somebody to do it and

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that's when it got weird so they did

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they actually removed 17 objects for Oh

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70 71 out of patients 17 but there's at

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least 17 objects some people have

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multiples but you

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he went over 20 years you're gonna

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Whittle it down and get the right people

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and take them out and get them analyzed

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and but never before have they had real

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hardcore scientific evidence that would

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prove any of their claims you know

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arguably but that's what I was

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attempting to do with this film because

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you know that wouldn't that be [\h__\h]

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cool you know or you're like this is

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[\h__\h] and when you're done you know

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well now it's very interesting I'm I'm

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all ears

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I'm waiting right now so you'll see in

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my film when you watch it

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we had what's called broad spectrum

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elemental analysis and isotopic analysis

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basically what that means is you look at

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this object and you try to find out what

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is it made of so the most complex alloys

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that we have will typically be four to

429
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five different elements in it I mean

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nothing crazy

431
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this had 36 elements inside each one

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tiny piece so all those elements play

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nicely together it's kind of strange

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some of which were highly toxic some of

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which were rare earth elements so this

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is a highly fabricated machined

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something that ended in his leg some

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people thought it was meteorite yeah he

439
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got hit by a micrometeorite

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actually supposedly the earth is

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supposedly bombarded by thousands of

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those right and most things do or they

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disintegrate in our atmosphere but yeah

444
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sure particulates end up all the time on

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earth that's why we can study the

446
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isotopes of meteor I said we we study

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extraterrestrial isotopes and why that's

448
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important

449
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isotopes tell you origin to a degree so

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if you have zinc you have five although

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four are studied major isotopes that

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have the same ratio if they're made on

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earth the same across the board

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it is a ratio of isotope of zinc 64 that

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is common on this planet if you get

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something outside 1% of that you're like

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oh I probably got a meteorite because it

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was made somewhere else

459
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well this sample was far outside the

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terrestrial norm in the zinc 64 so

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somebody said oh okay maybe it's a micro

462
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meteorite hit him in the leg the first

463
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way you got to be really [\h__\h] lucky

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to have that happened right but I took

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it to the head meteorite specialist at

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UCLA

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and it was definitively not meteoric

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iron so it is not a meteorite

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it is a fabricated material as far as

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everybody can tell from you know you

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know material scientists and

472
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nanotechnologists it is a fabricated

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material now is it a chip that tracks a

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human made by way no idea that's what

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their claim is so where I stand on it

476
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now it is a real [\h__\h] mystery and

477
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we're trying my team and me we're trying

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to get to the bottom of that and it'll

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all be open-source the results are

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already on my website interesting so

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have you ever gotten somebody that gets

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come along asking for your help or

483
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you've just had to turn them away

484
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because you're like listen this has

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nothing damn damn

486
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I don't know anything about penis

487
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implants I mean people are crazy I mean

488
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people like you about penis implants oh

489
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yeah

490
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send me photos strange dick pics no I

491
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mean in all honesty I'm joking around

492
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that's Katie part two that's right

493
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you've got a show we've got a thing that

494
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we want to push all about serial killer

495
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dicks being transplanted on death row

496
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Wow yeah mine pretty creative

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individuals overnight I already got a

498
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sense of that you have a nice set I

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think you get to the bottom a big foot

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over there I think so but yeah I mean

501
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all joking aside yes I get asked by

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people on a daily basis whether they're

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government military employees that have

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seen something have been involved in a

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research project to simply somebody's

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mom who has a lifetime of abductive

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experiences and doesn't know what to say

508
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about it I recently got a call from a

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young man who was serving in the Navy

510
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for quite some time and he saw something

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that totally blew his mind of what this

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reality is and it was so shaking to him

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that he literally went on the internet

514
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looked up UFO and research and

515
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investigator and found me and was

516
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disturbed about it you know do you have

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a personal estimate unlike

518
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how what the average is on these things

519
00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:24,679
being actually legit UFOs versus just

520
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you know an airplane or some weird bird

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or something that you know weather

522
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balloon or an odd reflection yeah

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depends who depends who's looking but

524
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you know the classic study with Project

525
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Blue Book which is actually the

526
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predecessor to project sign and project

527
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grudge which were the military projects

528
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to look at the unidentified flying

529
00:19:48,970 --> 00:19:47,210
object thing moved to become Project

530
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Blue Book it was a public thing it was

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largely created to discredit the topic

532
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because there was a tonality within our

533
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military that they wanted to demystify

534
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the UFO topic because it was becoming a

535
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problem when it became a problem was the

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1952 I believe flyover of Washington DC

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every magazine picked it up all the

538
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teletypes stopped working they got

539
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flooded with reports and they saw this

540
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as a threat to national security so they

541
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made a clear agenda to infiltrate the

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UFO community and to make a mockery of

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00:20:19,630 --> 00:20:18,020
people that talked about it but

544
00:20:21,970 --> 00:20:19,640
everybody involved to this day if

545
00:20:24,190 --> 00:20:21,980
they're still alive I've talked to at

546
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:24,200
least two of them this is a real

547
00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:26,210
phenomenon it is occurring our military

548
00:20:32,770 --> 00:20:28,370
is quite aware of it and so as the

549
00:20:35,710 --> 00:20:32,780
public actually and they had I think 700

550
00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:35,720
they had some over 700 unsolved cases

551
00:20:39,159 --> 00:20:37,220
things that they couldn't attribute to

552
00:20:40,899 --> 00:20:39,169
these basic things that you just said so

553
00:20:44,110 --> 00:20:40,909
I would say you know they say 5 to 10

554
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:44,120
percent or real and actual but I also

555
00:20:47,620 --> 00:20:45,440
know a lot of these reports go

556
00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:47,630
completely unreported a lot of these

557
00:20:52,510 --> 00:20:48,470
sightings go unreported

558
00:20:54,370 --> 00:20:52,520
so where I'm at now is really simple the

559
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:54,380
UFO phenomenon is part of just the

560
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:56,570
phenomenon that includes UFOs is a much

561
00:21:00,909 --> 00:20:58,880
bigger picture going on because when you

562
00:21:03,190 --> 00:21:00,919
talk with somebody and doesn't matter

563
00:21:05,230 --> 00:21:03,200
what part of life who they are it's

564
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:05,240
homogeneous around the world this is not

565
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:06,530
something that just Americans are seeing

566
00:21:10,630 --> 00:21:08,650
or just you know this is homogeneous so

567
00:21:12,460 --> 00:21:10,640
there is something that is occurring

568
00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:12,470
it's been occurring since the beginning

569
00:21:16,659 --> 00:21:14,570
of recorded human history it often

570
00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:16,669
manifests itself as lights but when you

571
00:21:19,510 --> 00:21:18,230
talk with somebody and they say I saw

572
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:19,520
this I saw a disc

573
00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:21,890
I saw a craft there's usually something

574
00:21:26,890 --> 00:21:24,260
behind that that they're not telling you

575
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:26,900
because it is acceptable to say I saw a

576
00:21:32,930 --> 00:21:29,430
flying saucer or a UFO like some

577
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:32,940
that's more specific or weird right and

578
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:35,250
it's usually yeah usually is more weird

579
00:21:39,140 --> 00:21:37,410
and so the thing is is when people get

580
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:39,150
comfortable to move out of just telling

581
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,410
you what they reported you get this a

582
00:21:44,210 --> 00:21:41,760
lot with the military guys they tell you

583
00:21:45,950 --> 00:21:44,220
just what what they saw there's usually

584
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:45,960
some sort of sociological or

585
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:47,490
psychological impact that comes with

586
00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:50,250
that if you've seen something it's it's

587
00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:51,900
more common that you'll see something

588
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:54,000
again and if you've had abductive

589
00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:56,520
experiences sure as [\h__\h] your parents

590
00:21:59,390 --> 00:21:57,720
and your grandparents have too and

591
00:22:01,700 --> 00:21:59,400
that's a weird thing and that's been

592
00:22:04,550 --> 00:22:01,710
studied very well seems to be genetic or

593
00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:04,560
familial yeah you probably covered this

594
00:22:08,810 --> 00:22:07,530
when you are on our podcast before but

595
00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:08,820
how did you and just initially get

596
00:22:13,310 --> 00:22:11,220
interested in all of this I was 13 years

597
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,320
old I heard on the radio George Knapp

598
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,600
and Bob Lazar Bob Lazar was telling his

599
00:22:20,570 --> 00:22:18,000
story of reverse engineering alien

600
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:20,580
technology and the way he described it

601
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:23,010
the propulsion system was absolutely

602
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:26,490
like a flip from how I saw locomotion

603
00:22:29,090 --> 00:22:27,930
the idea of moving something forward by

604
00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:29,100
pushing something back

605
00:22:33,890 --> 00:22:31,830
this was falling into place by warping

606
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:33,900
space-time with gravity wave amplifiers

607
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:35,730
it's the coolest story as a kid you're

608
00:22:39,530 --> 00:22:38,010
like I want this to be real so that's

609
00:22:41,450 --> 00:22:39,540
how I got interested is just hearing

610
00:22:43,310 --> 00:22:41,460
this story little did I know I'd ended

611
00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:43,320
up making the definitive documentary on

612
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:46,440
Bob Lazar which is coming out in 2018 so

613
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:49,770
that is full circle no I'm just starting

614
00:22:58,970 --> 00:22:56,490
the editing process I have a deadline

615
00:23:00,830 --> 00:22:58,980
and it will be out in 2018 but that's

616
00:23:02,570 --> 00:23:00,840
that's how I started but I know I did

617
00:23:04,130 --> 00:23:02,580
was talk about it and at that time of

618
00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:04,140
the world you know everything you say

619
00:23:07,820 --> 00:23:05,310
you're most people do you're [\h__\h]

620
00:23:09,170 --> 00:23:07,830
crazy so you know just talk about it

621
00:23:10,910 --> 00:23:09,180
with people it's funny that you bring

622
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:10,920
that up because I do feel like you said

623
00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:12,780
a lot more people are coming forward and

624
00:23:16,220 --> 00:23:14,130
talking about the fact that they've seen

625
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:16,230
something and that the whole like if you

626
00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:18,090
saw a UFO you're crazy doesn't really

627
00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:20,190
hold the same kind of water that it did

628
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:21,780
back in the past because if you just

629
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:27,690
look back to 20 2016 with the whole like

630
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:30,000
it was a running joke well while the

631
00:23:32,930 --> 00:23:31,050
president liked to run for the

632
00:23:34,730 --> 00:23:32,940
presidency presidency was happening that

633
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:34,740
you know you get on a talk show and

634
00:23:37,940 --> 00:23:36,090
Hillary Clinton

635
00:23:41,779 --> 00:23:37,950
saying the first thing she's gonna do is

636
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,789
release you know UFO documents granted

637
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:43,200
she put a little caveat in there unless

638
00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:46,650
it was up against oh yeah and she also

639
00:23:50,330 --> 00:23:48,809
tried to give everybody a new term on

640
00:23:52,310 --> 00:23:50,340
that day so is Jimmy Kimmel he's always

641
00:23:53,899 --> 00:23:52,320
pushed that which is great I thank Jimmy

642
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:53,909
Kimmel for doing that but basically she

643
00:23:58,340 --> 00:23:55,890
came up and said well we now we called

644
00:24:00,680 --> 00:23:58,350
them you AP's unidentified aerial

645
00:24:02,659 --> 00:24:00,690
phenomenon she was giving the public a

646
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:02,669
search term for FOIA requests Freedom of

647
00:24:07,130 --> 00:24:04,890
Information Act requests right but in

648
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:07,140
fact in intelligence circles people call

649
00:24:11,810 --> 00:24:09,570
them a a vs and almost aerial vehicles

650
00:24:13,250 --> 00:24:11,820
or a ATS and almost aerial threats so

651
00:24:14,659 --> 00:24:13,260
there's all these terminologies that are

652
00:24:16,610 --> 00:24:14,669
better than UFO if you don't want

653
00:24:18,830 --> 00:24:16,620
somebody to look into FOIA and that kind

654
00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,840
of thing but that was cool and yeah it's

655
00:24:22,669 --> 00:24:21,120
becoming popular but recently I think

656
00:24:23,930 --> 00:24:22,679
it's cuz they're gonna I think the

657
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:23,940
government is gonna drop a bomb on us

658
00:24:29,060 --> 00:24:26,010
everybody wishes that's the truth but

659
00:24:31,580 --> 00:24:29,070
you know here's that's gonna happen

660
00:24:33,260 --> 00:24:31,590
disclosure has already happened you know

661
00:24:35,149 --> 00:24:33,270
they are disclosing themselves whatever

662
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:35,159
this intelligence is to a degree then

663
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:36,450
also how do we know that our government

664
00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:38,010
really knows anything that's not my

665
00:24:41,450 --> 00:24:39,630
information that's it's my understanding

666
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:41,460
that everybody is just kind of

667
00:24:44,570 --> 00:24:43,200
threatened because they don't know what

668
00:24:46,039 --> 00:24:44,580
it is they've never really known they

669
00:24:47,389 --> 00:24:46,049
get little bits and pieces and try to

670
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:47,399
reverse-engineer them and there you go

671
00:24:53,510 --> 00:24:49,770
did you see that new article that just I

672
00:24:56,090 --> 00:24:53,520
think dropped yesterday about the the

673
00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:56,100
the group of college students in Turkey

674
00:25:01,190 --> 00:24:59,520
making an announcement that yeah look

675
00:25:03,019 --> 00:25:01,200
this up really fast I can't add it

676
00:25:05,659 --> 00:25:03,029
briefly but some something that there

677
00:25:08,210 --> 00:25:05,669
was a group of students in Turkey that

678
00:25:10,330 --> 00:25:08,220
announced that they that that they feel

679
00:25:12,710 --> 00:25:10,340
that the government is absolutely

680
00:25:14,899 --> 00:25:12,720
keeping all of this hidden from the

681
00:25:16,940 --> 00:25:14,909
public and that there's a whole whole

682
00:25:19,549 --> 00:25:16,950
bunch of shady business behind it going

683
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:19,559
on did you see that at all I didn't but

684
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:21,450
we know that we know that there has been

685
00:25:27,019 --> 00:25:24,659
you know kind of cone of silence put

686
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:27,029
over this topic as well as active you

687
00:25:30,919 --> 00:25:29,490
know mocking of this topic to dissuade

688
00:25:32,659 --> 00:25:30,929
the public from taking it seriously

689
00:25:35,659 --> 00:25:32,669
because it is one of the more important

690
00:25:37,940 --> 00:25:35,669
topics this can be proved there's a

691
00:25:40,220 --> 00:25:37,950
document trail for this we have the

692
00:25:42,889 --> 00:25:40,230
documents in the public realm so that is

693
00:25:45,049 --> 00:25:42,899
fact it's not like a Eureka moment I'm

694
00:25:46,580 --> 00:25:45,059
glad that they're talking about it but

695
00:25:48,500 --> 00:25:46,590
it's something that if anybody just

696
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:48,510
looks they can see that this is in fact

697
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:49,210
the case

698
00:25:53,420 --> 00:25:51,310
now there's a reason for that you know

699
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:53,430
we want as America let's say a

700
00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:55,810
technological advantage in warfare if we

701
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:58,330
have a technological advantage then we

702
00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:00,640
can be a superior technologically nation

703
00:26:05,220 --> 00:26:03,310
and every government of the earth wants

704
00:26:06,510 --> 00:26:05,230
that so when you get something and you

705
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:06,520
don't know what it is you don't know its

706
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:08,710
potential for weaponization you keep it

707
00:26:12,270 --> 00:26:10,330
quiet and you figure out how to

708
00:26:14,430 --> 00:26:12,280
weaponize it first that's the mentality

709
00:26:15,570 --> 00:26:14,440
but we're way beyond that that was

710
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:15,580
happening you know during the time of

711
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:18,610
the Roswell crashes multiple right so

712
00:26:22,260 --> 00:26:20,110
now we're in a different era

713
00:26:25,230 --> 00:26:22,270
and now you have people you know 25

714
00:26:27,630 --> 00:26:25,240
years in the CIA just came out on stage

715
00:26:29,250 --> 00:26:27,640
with a guy from the Pentagon this was

716
00:26:31,350 --> 00:26:29,260
through Tom DeLonge the musician it was

717
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:31,360
busy that people look really harshly on

718
00:26:35,010 --> 00:26:32,530
this because they don't I don't think

719
00:26:37,410 --> 00:26:35,020
they can look past Tom and that he's

720
00:26:38,910 --> 00:26:37,420
fundraising for a new company but what

721
00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:38,920
happened on that day at that press

722
00:26:43,710 --> 00:26:41,920
announcement was pretty [\h__\h] epic you

723
00:26:46,590 --> 00:26:43,720
have now for the first time in history

724
00:26:49,890 --> 00:26:46,600
we know in the Pentagon there was a guy

725
00:26:51,810 --> 00:26:49,900
named Lou and Lou came on stage and he

726
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:51,820
says I was in charge of the anomalous

727
00:26:56,070 --> 00:26:54,250
aerial threats department and we have

728
00:26:57,570 --> 00:26:56,080
that in the Pentagon I ran it for years

729
00:27:00,360 --> 00:26:57,580
and we take this matter very seriously

730
00:27:02,370 --> 00:27:00,370
and he basically and you can watch it

731
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:02,380
said you know I am a believer these are

732
00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:03,670
not from here after what I've seen in

733
00:27:07,620 --> 00:27:05,140
the technology is how they run circles

734
00:27:09,090 --> 00:27:07,630
around our craft actually around our

735
00:27:11,130 --> 00:27:09,100
nuclear missiles that's something that's

736
00:27:12,870 --> 00:27:11,140
well documented we had 10 minute men

737
00:27:15,270 --> 00:27:12,880
missiles shut down at maelstrom Air

738
00:27:16,830 --> 00:27:15,280
Force Base a guy named Robert Salas was

739
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:16,840
in the bunker at the time these

740
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:18,910
technologies came in shut down our

741
00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:22,090
number one defense in this world yeah

742
00:27:25,530 --> 00:27:23,590
and there were multiples they happen

743
00:27:27,270 --> 00:27:25,540
also in Russia at the same time and they

744
00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:27,280
happened on a second base in America at

745
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:29,140
the same time and then that new case I

746
00:27:36,020 --> 00:27:33,250
just told you 2004 Nimitz UFO type that

747
00:27:38,850 --> 00:27:36,030
in tic-tac everybody type that in okay

748
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:38,860
you will hear and read about the case

749
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:40,720
that I recently was able to break a lot

750
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:42,970
of information on it's crazy

751
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:45,040
this stuff is happening and we need to

752
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:47,050
acknowledge it I found an article from

753
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:48,880
this week that talks about a Turkish

754
00:27:54,210 --> 00:27:50,770
university that's offering now a major

755
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:54,220
in UF o ology that's [\h__\h] UF ology and

756
00:28:00,240 --> 00:27:58,210
et Encounters yeah it's from this week

757
00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:00,250
send me the link yeah it should be

758
00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:01,870
studied scientifically it should be

759
00:28:06,060 --> 00:28:03,910
studied in academic circles there is

760
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:06,070
more evidence for UFOs than there is God

761
00:28:11,370 --> 00:28:09,010
so we might as well look at it it's true

762
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:11,380
so where do you think things go from

763
00:28:16,530 --> 00:28:14,530
here then I mean if if all of the the

764
00:28:18,090 --> 00:28:16,540
big technological push that we were

765
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:18,100
exposed to that we've kept quiet and

766
00:28:24,210 --> 00:28:19,390
everything kind of happened back in the

767
00:28:26,250 --> 00:28:24,220
roswell days and now it kind of doesn't

768
00:28:27,660 --> 00:28:26,260
have the same stigma necessarily i mean

769
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:27,670
there's still stigma there but not as

770
00:28:31,650 --> 00:28:30,010
aggressively as it was back in the day

771
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:31,660
now you know you've got potential

772
00:28:35,550 --> 00:28:33,430
presidents making jokes about it and

773
00:28:38,220 --> 00:28:35,560
things of that nature where does

774
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:38,230
everything go from here right so a lot

775
00:28:44,370 --> 00:28:40,210
of presidents pushed for the UFO topic

776
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:44,380
from JFK to Nixon one of the first

777
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:46,210
things he did was try to you know make

778
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:48,250
stuff more available in these black

779
00:28:51,780 --> 00:28:50,170
budgets and these programs to him so

780
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:51,790
every president I can think of you know

781
00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:53,290
Clinton one of the first things he did

782
00:28:57,690 --> 00:28:55,270
was ask about both JFK because he didn't

783
00:28:59,910 --> 00:28:57,700
want to be killed and the UFO subject so

784
00:29:03,660 --> 00:28:59,920
we've got presidents trying to be read

785
00:29:05,220 --> 00:29:03,670
in to these projects unsuccessfully the

786
00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:05,230
President of the United States has been

787
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:07,990
told no every time since Eisenhower

788
00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:10,090
Eisenhower had the closest relation

789
00:29:13,470 --> 00:29:11,800
because he was actually a general he was

790
00:29:16,050 --> 00:29:13,480
like I think a three-star general he

791
00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:16,060
actually was a military person so he had

792
00:29:19,650 --> 00:29:17,230
more knowledge on this than other

793
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:19,660
presidents after him but if you think

794
00:29:24,300 --> 00:29:21,850
about that all these presidents trying

795
00:29:24,930 --> 00:29:24,310
to get information and can't where does

796
00:29:27,780 --> 00:29:24,940
that leave us

797
00:29:30,270 --> 00:29:27,790
what what is what is our ability to have

798
00:29:31,740 --> 00:29:30,280
clearance for that so I'm not very

799
00:29:35,130 --> 00:29:31,750
hopeful that the government's gonna

800
00:29:38,010 --> 00:29:35,140
serve up the the alien saucer on a crap

801
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:38,020
you know on a platter but I do think

802
00:29:42,930 --> 00:29:40,810
that every individual and what they do

803
00:29:44,910 --> 00:29:42,940
makes a difference if you have a loud

804
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:44,920
enough voice and you shake the cages we

805
00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:45,850
can get somewhere it's happened

806
00:29:49,950 --> 00:29:46,990
throughout history there's a proof for

807
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:49,960
that so I think everybody kind of shaken

808
00:29:53,250 --> 00:29:51,250
the cages on this from their different

809
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:53,260
angles from scientific to spiritual to

810
00:29:56,610 --> 00:29:54,730
whatever we need all kinds of people

811
00:29:58,170 --> 00:29:56,620
looking at this I think that's what we

812
00:29:59,460 --> 00:29:58,180
do I think we just keep talking about it

813
00:30:00,840 --> 00:29:59,470
and we put it as something that's

814
00:30:03,660 --> 00:30:00,850
important to us because if we're not

815
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:03,670
alone and we're not I mean everybody

816
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:04,960
knows how big the universe is but

817
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:06,970
everybody accepts that now most people

818
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:08,050
accept that now

819
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:09,970
but if they're visiting here doesn't

820
00:30:14,790 --> 00:30:12,130
that mean something and it does so let's

821
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:14,800
find out do you have any thoughts on how

822
00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:16,090
it might tie in to all the other

823
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:17,680
theories out there that we're currently

824
00:30:25,350 --> 00:30:21,970
living in a sim you know I mean I guess

825
00:30:26,940 --> 00:30:25,360
if you play the sims City aliens come

826
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:26,950
and potentially destroy your city do

827
00:30:33,090 --> 00:30:30,790
they random it's a random disaster event

828
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:33,100
that happens so I guess I just answered

829
00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:34,240
my own question if we're living in a

830
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:36,070
sense oh yeah a random and disaster

831
00:30:40,740 --> 00:30:38,530
event it brings up a really interesting

832
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:40,750
question which is that you know that

833
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:42,640
theory I'm Elon Musk is famous for

834
00:30:45,330 --> 00:30:43,840
saying it but a lot of people are

835
00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,340
seriously talking about this in Silicon

836
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:47,200
Valley right now this is a big deal you

837
00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:48,970
know any advanced civilization at some

838
00:30:51,930 --> 00:30:50,470
point needs to forego the physical body

839
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:51,940
and create some sort of simulated

840
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:53,260
reality which will be just like our

841
00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,910
reality maybe we're living in one

842
00:31:00,000 --> 00:30:56,940
maybe we're living in someone else's

843
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:00,010
here's what I know I know that UFO is

844
00:31:04,110 --> 00:31:02,050
the one thing we can say is that they

845
00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:04,120
represent a huge amount of power in a

846
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:05,470
small amount of space and this has been

847
00:31:11,340 --> 00:31:08,610
studied so we know that I mean moult

848
00:31:12,930 --> 00:31:11,350
multitude of atomic bombs and the size

849
00:31:16,110 --> 00:31:12,940
of a softball that that's how much power

850
00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:16,120
these things you know display so we can

851
00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:18,070
test that we know that to to a high

852
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:20,860
degree so the question is is what we're

853
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:23,320
seeing purely physical like craft from

854
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:25,330
another star system the evidence

855
00:31:30,510 --> 00:31:27,880
suggests not the evidence suggests that

856
00:31:32,820 --> 00:31:30,520
what we're seeing is manipulated for us

857
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:32,830
to see that this is a high intelligence

858
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:34,510
does make mistakes but it's a high

859
00:31:39,330 --> 00:31:36,610
intelligence that is displaying to us

860
00:31:41,490 --> 00:31:39,340
this UFO phenomenon and that there's a

861
00:31:43,890 --> 00:31:41,500
lot more behind it that it's coming in

862
00:31:46,350 --> 00:31:43,900
waves if you track it over time in a

863
00:31:48,180 --> 00:31:46,360
same pattern as any general learning

864
00:31:51,060 --> 00:31:48,190
curve meaning there's something they

865
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:51,070
want us to know or to learn so what is

866
00:31:55,170 --> 00:31:52,750
that you know I'm a quick learner tell

867
00:31:58,200 --> 00:31:55,180
me so that's kind of where I'm at is

868
00:32:00,240 --> 00:31:58,210
let's find out more but if we just

869
00:32:01,620 --> 00:32:00,250
acknowledge it and we say this is

870
00:32:03,570 --> 00:32:01,630
happening here are the radar reports

871
00:32:06,060 --> 00:32:03,580
here's a historical accounts here's a

872
00:32:07,710 --> 00:32:06,070
scientific data we have well then we can

873
00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:07,720
start to face it and ask the real

874
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:09,640
questions what are we supposed to be

875
00:32:13,590 --> 00:32:11,530
learning from this what does it mean of

876
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:13,600
course what's the threat there's no

877
00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:16,090
threat or we would be gone but that's

878
00:32:20,220 --> 00:32:18,760
what I want to know so be open about it

879
00:32:22,740 --> 00:32:20,230
and start talking about it interesting

880
00:32:25,530 --> 00:32:22,750
well we've got ten minutes left okay

881
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:25,540
is there anything you want to touch base

882
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:27,670
about what you've got coming up for bob

883
00:32:31,230 --> 00:32:29,500
lazar that you know without having to

884
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:31,240
give too much away let me just tell you

885
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:33,730
the quick note of patient 17 which is

886
00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:36,010
that this movie I never thought was

887
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:37,960
something that I would do I fell in love

888
00:32:43,670 --> 00:32:40,540
with the project by meeting the subject

889
00:32:45,810 --> 00:32:43,680
patient 17 himself he's a normal guy of

890
00:32:48,270 --> 00:32:45,820
unnormal height six foot nine or

891
00:32:50,550 --> 00:32:48,280
something he's a giant of a man yeah

892
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:50,560
and he has a real mystery in his life

893
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:52,090
and I'm trying to help him solve it

894
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:53,410
we're trying to get to the bottom of it

895
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:55,330
I'm doing scientific research for it but

896
00:33:00,150 --> 00:32:57,250
if you watch the film patient seventeen

897
00:33:01,950 --> 00:33:00,160
it's on iTunes Amazon Xbox Vudu all that

898
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:01,960
stuff it'll be coming out too in other

899
00:33:06,660 --> 00:33:05,170
forms basically if you watch that you'll

900
00:33:08,730 --> 00:33:06,670
kind of get caught up on this particular

901
00:33:10,650 --> 00:33:08,740
mystery and there will be more coming

902
00:33:13,890 --> 00:33:10,660
out through my website and such on this

903
00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:13,900
case and then yeah Bob Lazar like if you

904
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:16,540
don't know who Bob Lazar is please type

905
00:33:21,030 --> 00:33:18,090
in his name it's not that many letters

906
00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:21,040
Wow this is a guy reverse engineered

907
00:33:26,010 --> 00:33:23,260
alien craft at a sub base of area 51

908
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:26,020
called s4 he is the only person ever to

909
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:28,330
get out of that kind of facility and

910
00:33:38,310 --> 00:33:32,170
have some evidence that he did work

911
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:38,320
there there that's why he came out

912
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:40,480
that's why he came out 1989 with George

913
00:33:46,710 --> 00:33:42,970
Knapp on kls news in Las Vegas because

914
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:46,720
his life was under threat and it

915
00:33:51,930 --> 00:33:49,810
protected him yeah and people don't

916
00:33:54,750 --> 00:33:51,940
believe his story for X reason why

917
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:54,760
reason at least have a good reason but

918
00:33:58,110 --> 00:33:56,410
the thing is is that he's telling you

919
00:33:59,790 --> 00:33:58,120
the truth and I think most people are

920
00:34:01,350 --> 00:33:59,800
gonna see that my films just going to

921
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:01,360
lay out the evidence and the facts and

922
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,890
then it's up to everybody else to decide

923
00:34:06,930 --> 00:34:04,960
so that's to look forward to but find

924
00:34:08,430 --> 00:34:06,940
out who Bob Lazar is go deep down the

925
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:08,440
rabbit hole pick out all the things that

926
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:10,510
why you think he's lying so that we can

927
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:12,910
get to them in the film are you ever

928
00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:15,130
worried about yourself no no I've never

929
00:34:19,530 --> 00:34:17,500
been threatened never been stopped only

930
00:34:20,850 --> 00:34:19,540
been assisted everybody has helped me

931
00:34:22,410 --> 00:34:20,860
it's crazy

932
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:22,420
see that's what you don't hear very

933
00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:24,320
options right nice to actually

934
00:34:30,460 --> 00:34:28,340
that everybody [\h__\h] bullshit's there

935
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:30,470
is seriously there someone who run

936
00:34:33,850 --> 00:34:32,240
around saying you know I'm under threat

937
00:34:36,970 --> 00:34:33,860
oh the sensitive this is sensitive

938
00:34:39,340 --> 00:34:36,980
information I've briefed X Y & Z people

939
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:39,350
and they're [\h__\h] lying well the

940
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:41,180
government doesn't need some Joe Schmoe

941
00:34:46,330 --> 00:34:43,850
who pretends he's a doctor to go ahead

942
00:34:47,350 --> 00:34:46,340
and you know briefed people basically

943
00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:47,360
they have their own self-contained

944
00:34:51,190 --> 00:34:49,550
system so what I'm saying is if

945
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:51,200
someone's coming at you like that

946
00:34:56,740 --> 00:34:53,930
most likely it's total [\h__\h] however

947
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:56,750
there are some times are documented

948
00:35:00,280 --> 00:34:57,890
where the United States military has

949
00:35:01,990 --> 00:35:00,290
literally run people into the crazy farm

950
00:35:04,060 --> 00:35:02,000
with this is there's a really famous

951
00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:04,070
case with a guy named Richard Doty who

952
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:05,960
worked at Nellis Air Force Base and he

953
00:35:10,030 --> 00:35:07,760
worked sorry it's Kirtland Air Force

954
00:35:13,030 --> 00:35:10,040
Base and he worked for our government

955
00:35:14,650 --> 00:35:13,040
and he basically drove a man mad by

956
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:14,660
giving him false information that he was

957
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:16,730
already on to so that stuff does happen

958
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:25,280
hasn't happened to me I don't think I am

959
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:32,570
the worst person big thank you to Jeremy

960
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:34,130
for coming back thanks for having me

961
00:35:37,750 --> 00:35:36,080
guys really cool I love your setup here

962
00:35:38,140 --> 00:35:37,760
thanks thanks for having me yeah my

963
00:35:40,780 --> 00:35:38,150
pleasure

964
00:35:42,490 --> 00:35:40,790
you can find patients 17 like he said on

965
00:35:44,380 --> 00:35:42,500
iTunes and pretty much anywhere else

966
00:35:47,740 --> 00:35:44,390
that digital distribution is going on

967
00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:47,750
and keep an eye out back in 2018 it

968
00:35:54,190 --> 00:35:49,820
seems so weird to say that 28 I know but

969
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,200
it is richer 2018 for the Bob Lazar

970
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:56,000
stuff yeah and all my work can be found

971
00:36:00,130 --> 00:35:58,010
at extraordinary beliefs calm like every

972
00:36:02,110 --> 00:36:00,140
single series that I've created is all